Latin 915 keeps deleting the boxer page "Josh Ekrem". I paid money and pulled his Fight Fax report and posted it to the wiki to verify the statements made in the wiki, and Latin keeps deleting it because he says he cannot find an article. FightFax was the official record keeper of boxing through 2017. Please lock this page from edit. Official fight records are the most significant proof of evidence that could be referenced, yet he continues to delete the page.
Simply go to Chancefavors wall where you will see I repeatedly asked this user to provide proof that Josh Ekrem was an actual fighter but Chancefavors has not. How can this be an actual fighter yet there is no record of him anywhere? Especially if he is a former IBO champion? No record of that title fight? No article? Nothing.
On September 15, 2017 on your own wall even you told Chancefavors that "I am not sure why this page is such a problem if it cannot be referenced then it should be deleted. from what i see it was created by an anonymous contributor anyway, possibly bogus from the beginning."
The IBO Championship is not one of the 4 major belts. Also according to his fightfax it was contested in Australia and it was 13 years ago, not likely an article that will be primae fascia. FightFax doesn’t lie. Latin915 continues to ask for a url link to FightFax. FightFax is the record keeper of boxing and can only be accessed by people with admin credentials which I am one. So I logged into fight fax and pulled the record. If you have ever seen a FightFax you will know what they look like. What I posted is a FightFax report.
His story continues to change. First he paid money to get this "Fight Fax report" and now he says he has administrator credentials to get a report. At least keep your stories straight. If you look at the so called report it looks like something that was typed up on a computer and an image of it was uploaded here. If it was an actual document from a website it would have specific content from that website that shows where it is from.
Again I ask if this was an actual boxer how can there be zero record of his existence? An article? An image of him in an actual fight? As I pointed out previously, even you as the administrator pointed that out.
Administrator logins have to pay to pull records. Again, stop making assumptions. And no, fight fax pulls don’t contain http URLs with content where it is from. I’m not going to continue to argue with you. You’re by no means a stupid man, but you’re definitely ignorant if you think you know how boxing records are really maintained and what they look like. At this point, it isn’t even about the boxer, it’s your ignorance about professional boxing and it’s record keeping system. Learn about FightFax, learn what a FightFax report looks like. There are a lot, a lot of fighters that have gotten a bad shake because of inconsistent record keeping, specifically with BoxRec. So a lot of guys only have FightFax to fall back on, not fan truth, real boxing industry truth. I’m just trying to stand up for one of them.
Again, 13 plus years ago, likely posted to a .mex or.aus url. Very easily buried into the internet. Photographers at events doesn’t equal published work, that’s an assumption. FightFax is an irrefutable document that would face court scrutiny. Admin only suggested deleting due to lack of reference at the time and because the page was getting vandalized. That was the context in which he made the reference - not that the page was fake, just that it lacked reference. Fight Fax is the record keeper of pro boxing and his FightFax is now uploaded into boxing wikia. Page needs to kept with no further edits unless referenced like his FightFax.
Everything I have asked for to prove this a real boxer you can't provide.
You can't provide any article showing him as an actual boxer, not even an article on him being a former IBO champion.
You can't provide an image showing him in an actual boxing ring during an actual boxing match.
The image you claim is a fight fax report can't be verified. Again, I or anyone else could type it up and it look the same as what you say is a report
I have never disputed what fight fax is, just the report you provided can't be verified. How about the report, well it has what is suppose to be this boxer's fight record. How can there be no record of any of those fights? Any of them? 17 fights, no article or images of any of them?
Latin915 needs to be blocked. He is requested a delete on this page. A page that doesn’t meet the preponderance of evidence to warrant deletion, the guys FightFax is listed for God’s sake. He has completely taken over the wiki and is editing others work and controlling the boxing wiki as if he has full domain and ownership of it. Contributing it great, but his behavior has become dictatorial for this boxers page and numerous other pages.
So on Chancefavors wall he admited on December 13, 2018 that he wasnt telling the truth about where he got the supposed fight fax report. Go to his wall and you will see him say that along with more information that will help you the administrator decide. I suggest you read the conversation that is on user:Chancefavors' wall as well as the one here on your wall to help you make your decision. Thank you for your time.
Yep I lied about where I got it, but it doesn’t change facts. You can call me a liar for my source but it doesn’t change what I found and I started it because of the attitude of Latin915, and please do read what I wrote - he’s an asshole. He took over the wiki like he owned it and it seriously pissed me off. He is the anti-thesis of collaboration so yes, I told him to go fuck himsef. Me speaking my mind, and lying, doesn’t change facts. The amount of shit I came up with regardless is well in excess of the factual shit support I find on the rest of fandom so I’m a little tired of Latin915 imposing double standards. So I’ve used profanity and I lied about my sources, but evidence is still evidence.
You know what you’re right. I’ve been being a total asshole. I’ll lesve the page deleted. I don’t know why I became so angry with you and used this wiki page as my outlet. I hate to admit this but I owe you an apology.
So whatever your name actually is, I’m going to stop attacking you. If you think the page should be deleted then I really should let you post that. This is no excuse but my Dad passed away recently, and apparently this wiki page became an outlet and pushed a button in me.
Posting all that hate I just did was kinda like a release for me for some completely unrelated shit.
Yeah I guess this article should be considered for delete by whoever wrote it. Honestly I can’t confirm or deny any of it, so based on that alone the reality is that it might be 100% accurate but I cant personally verify it so I move to nominate your concept of deletion.
Don’t think you do. I kinda have just lost my shit over the past three weeks. I can’t believe I just did all of that over a wiki page that I honestly don’t really know that much about. More or less ashamed of my fucked up behavior.
Hi I updated the List of current world boxing champions. Looks like it hadnt been updated in about 5 years lol. If you dont like the edits I made you can just rollback my edits to the last edit before me. I am an admin of another wiki so if you think I can help elswhere here let me know. Thanks for your time.
The user Johnwhitt has been violating the terms and conditions of our user standards agreement by posting harassing personal statements about the person in question, the Wiki is about. I was advised by main fandom support to contact an administrator to have him blocked from contributing to boxing wikia - Josh Ekrem.
Ok, I blocked the guy for a month hopefully he will get bored and go away. I am not sure why this page is such a problem if it cannot be referenced then it should be deleted. from what i see it was created by an anonymous contributor anyway, possibly bogus from the beginning. Let me know if there is anymore problems I am here to help.